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	<title>Comments on: Dublin Bus and PALO ETL &#8211; the connection!</title>
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		<title>By: gobansaor</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/01/26/dublin-bus-and-palo-etl-the-connection/#comment-4633</link>
		<dc:creator>gobansaor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markus,

Cubeware is a no-no not just because of its row limitations but also due to its free licences being valid only until next December, after that who knows? 

As for Kettle problem, I&#039;ve not done any &quot;real work&quot; with the palo-plugin, just taken it for a &quot;spin-around-the-block&quot;.  But I&#039;ve found the folks at http://www.stratebi.com/ very helpful, if you contact them (or the excellent Pentaho PDI forum) they should be able to help you.

If you&#039;re doing a lot of PALO work you should take a look at Jedox&#039;s new ETL-Server product ( http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/26/palo-olap-and-sparse-dimensions/ ), it&#039;s very good.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus,</p>
<p>Cubeware is a no-no not just because of its row limitations but also due to its free licences being valid only until next December, after that who knows? </p>
<p>As for Kettle problem, I&#8217;ve not done any &#8220;real work&#8221; with the palo-plugin, just taken it for a &#8220;spin-around-the-block&#8221;.  But I&#8217;ve found the folks at <a href="http://www.stratebi.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stratebi.com/</a> very helpful, if you contact them (or the excellent Pentaho PDI forum) they should be able to help you.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re doing a lot of PALO work you should take a look at Jedox&#8217;s new ETL-Server product ( <a href="http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/26/palo-olap-and-sparse-dimensions/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/26/palo-olap-and-sparse-dimensions/</a> ), it&#8217;s very good.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/01/26/dublin-bus-and-palo-etl-the-connection/#comment-4629</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi goban,

i tried now cubeware importer, the kettle-plugin and talend os to create dimension structures. cubeware (freeware) allows only 50.000 rows maximum per import, talend is just useful for cell-filling and kettle is the only on left, which works properly. i agree absolutely to your requirements of ETL-tools!!!!

@kettle:
i got a small problem. the data fields which i transfer are formatted in integer and string. when i try to create a dimension with kettle, the dimension elements are formatted in text values (only when i enter string fields, integer fields are then formatted in numeric elements, as i want) - and palo does not calculate with text elements....
maybe you got a solution??

nice blog
markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi goban,</p>
<p>i tried now cubeware importer, the kettle-plugin and talend os to create dimension structures. cubeware (freeware) allows only 50.000 rows maximum per import, talend is just useful for cell-filling and kettle is the only on left, which works properly. i agree absolutely to your requirements of ETL-tools!!!!</p>
<p>@kettle:<br />
i got a small problem. the data fields which i transfer are formatted in integer and string. when i try to create a dimension with kettle, the dimension elements are formatted in text values (only when i enter string fields, integer fields are then formatted in numeric elements, as i want) &#8211; and palo does not calculate with text elements&#8230;.<br />
maybe you got a solution??</p>
<p>nice blog<br />
markus</p>
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		<title>By: gobansaor</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/01/26/dublin-bus-and-palo-etl-the-connection/#comment-3904</link>
		<dc:creator>gobansaor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Martin,

When I&#039;m working with Talend the thing I miss most from Kettle is Javascript support, so thanks for Jscript_mod, maybe you could add something similar to Talend ;-)

As for your Palo Plugin, it&#039;s OK in that it handles the value (aka measure) loading side of things.  But, the real &quot;pain-point&quot; for MOLAP ETL is the management of dimensions, particularly the hierarchical levels; this is essential in any ETL tool that attempts to deal with MOLAP cubes.

Also, as Talend is both a DI and ETL tool, the ability to read both dimensions and measures would be very useful.

As for the forums,they (along with the Talend product itself) have improved greatly.  I&#039;m using Talend (Java) for a current project and am greatly enjoying the experience.  Keep up the good work.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m working with Talend the thing I miss most from Kettle is Javascript support, so thanks for Jscript_mod, maybe you could add something similar to Talend <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for your Palo Plugin, it&#8217;s OK in that it handles the value (aka measure) loading side of things.  But, the real &#8220;pain-point&#8221; for MOLAP ETL is the management of dimensions, particularly the hierarchical levels; this is essential in any ETL tool that attempts to deal with MOLAP cubes.</p>
<p>Also, as Talend is both a DI and ETL tool, the ability to read both dimensions and measures would be very useful.</p>
<p>As for the forums,they (along with the Talend product itself) have improved greatly.  I&#8217;m using Talend (Java) for a current project and am greatly enjoying the experience.  Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi goban,

as the developer from the Talend Palo Plugin i&#039;d like to know what do you thing is missing?
To give you an idea with which person you have to do, i am the guy who has developed the Pentaho JScript_mod.
I&#039;am sorry that you dont receive any feedback about your question inside our forum. Maybe time changes and you are allways wellcome to post any questions.

Regards.
  Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi goban,</p>
<p>as the developer from the Talend Palo Plugin i&#8217;d like to know what do you thing is missing?<br />
To give you an idea with which person you have to do, i am the guy who has developed the Pentaho JScript_mod.<br />
I&#8217;am sorry that you dont receive any feedback about your question inside our forum. Maybe time changes and you are allways wellcome to post any questions.</p>
<p>Regards.<br />
  Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi goban,

Hope we did help :). Thanks for trying the plugin, please contact us if you discover any new things.

Regards,
Javier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi goban,</p>
<p>Hope we did help <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Thanks for trying the plugin, please contact us if you discover any new things.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Javier</p>
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