Comments on: Python the new VBA ? http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/ A country datasmith. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:46:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: gobansaor http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/#comment-3976 gobansaor Fri, 09 May 2008 09:01:50 +0000 http://gobansaor.wordpress.com/?p=359#comment-3976 Joseph, Calm down, it's only a programming language! I expect these sort of rants from the "young folks"; there are many things to get excited about in life, but not programming language wars. Firing people , i.e. affecting people's "real lives", would I hope be based on something more substantial than expressing an opinion on something as trivial as a programming tool! I'm a relative new comer to the business, 1978, but I've worked with a lot of tools, most average, some excellent, some atrocious, but as long as I got paid, it made very little difference to me what the tool was. Perl by the way would be up there in the excellent category, as would PL/SQL, MUMPS, SAP Config, ESSBASE, Excel VBA. As I said, when others who pay me pick the tool I just get on with it, but when I get to pick my own tools I tend to choose based on (a) fit for purpose (b) cost effectiveness (being self employed) and (c) my own totally subjective "would I like to spend my time working with this" attitude. Being "un-fair" to Perl by choosing Python doesn't come into it. To paraphrase, William Munny as he pointed the shotgun at Little Bill Daggett in the closing scenes of Unforgiven, "Fair's got nothin' to go with it". But I guess that's what you say as you fire another employee for daring to express an opinion contrary to your own. Tom Joseph,

Calm down, it’s only a programming language! I expect these sort of rants from the “young folks”; there are many things to get excited about in life, but not programming language wars.

Firing people , i.e. affecting people’s “real lives”, would I hope be based on something more substantial than expressing an opinion on something as trivial as a programming tool!

I’m a relative new comer to the business, 1978, but I’ve worked with a lot of tools, most average, some excellent, some atrocious, but as long as I got paid, it made very little difference to me what the tool was. Perl by the way would be up there in the excellent category, as would PL/SQL, MUMPS, SAP Config, ESSBASE, Excel VBA.

As I said, when others who pay me pick the tool I just get on with it, but when I get to pick my own tools I tend to choose based on (a) fit for purpose (b) cost effectiveness (being self employed) and (c) my own totally subjective “would I like to spend my time working with this” attitude. Being “un-fair” to Perl by choosing Python doesn’t come into it.

To paraphrase, William Munny as he pointed the shotgun at Little Bill Daggett in the closing scenes of Unforgiven, “Fair’s got nothin’ to go with it”. But I guess that’s what you say as you fire another employee for daring to express an opinion contrary to your own.

Tom

]]> By: Joseph B Cohen http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/#comment-3975 Joseph B Cohen Fri, 09 May 2008 03:35:30 +0000 http://gobansaor.wordpress.com/?p=359#comment-3975 Are we back to 'my python' can beat 'your perl' ? ANYTHING you can do in python you have been able to do in perl for a 'long time now'. And this above 'It’s powerful, fun to use, easy to learn, function orientated and I even like the use of human-eye-friendly ????? indentation rather than braces and delimiters as a code grouping mechanism.' would get you fired if you worked for me. I'll tell you what I think - working in the computer field since 1968 - it's called perspective : python is a perl ripoff ! Change some syntax, steal the C libraries and wow ! a new language. Quote from King Solomon - Ecclesiastes(spelling?) "there is nothing new under the sun". Works as well today, in the computer field, as in did two thousand years ago . Are we back to ‘my python’ can beat ‘your perl’ ? ANYTHING you can do in python you have been able to do in perl for a ‘long time now’. And this above ‘It’s powerful, fun to use, easy to learn, function orientated and I even like the use of human-eye-friendly ????? indentation rather than braces and delimiters as a code grouping mechanism.’ would get you fired if you worked for me.
I’ll tell you what I think - working in the computer field since 1968 - it’s called perspective : python is a perl ripoff ! Change some syntax, steal the C libraries and wow ! a new language.
Quote from King Solomon - Ecclesiastes(spelling?) “there is nothing new under the sun”. Works as well today, in the computer field, as in did two thousand years ago .

]]> By: Python to replace VB6 … « Gobán Saor http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/#comment-3968 Python to replace VB6 … « Gobán Saor Mon, 05 May 2008 11:59:21 +0000 http://gobansaor.wordpress.com/?p=359#comment-3968 [...] 5, 2008 by gobansaor … well at least for me. As I discussed previously I’ve been seriously investigating using Python as my primary datasmithing scripting language, [...] [...] 5, 2008 by gobansaor … well at least for me. As I discussed previously I’ve been seriously investigating using Python as my primary datasmithing scripting language, [...]

]]> By: Michael Wexler http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/#comment-3965 Michael Wexler Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:20:59 +0000 http://gobansaor.wordpress.com/?p=359#comment-3965 Not to mention that SPSS also links to Python as its scripting language of choice. See http://www.spss.com/devcentral/ for more details. Not to mention that SPSS also links to Python as its scripting language of choice.

See http://www.spss.com/devcentral/ for more details.

]]> By: gobansaor http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/#comment-3946 gobansaor Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:30:01 +0000 http://gobansaor.wordpress.com/?p=359#comment-3946 Dan, You're right, and as I do a lot of work with the JVM via Talend and Pentaho PDI and am actively looking at WaveMaker I must look into Jython. Tom Dan,

You’re right, and as I do a lot of work with the JVM via Talend and Pentaho PDI and am actively looking at WaveMaker I must look into Jython.

Tom

]]> By: Dan Sickles http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/04/11/python-the-new-vba/#comment-3945 Dan Sickles Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:58:14 +0000 http://gobansaor.wordpress.com/?p=359#comment-3945 Don't forget Jython, you may not work on the JVM now but you might down the road. Jython is moving quickly again toward 2.5 (or will it be 2.6?) Don’t forget Jython, you may not work on the JVM now but you might down the road. Jython is moving quickly again toward 2.5 (or will it be 2.6?)

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