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		<title>By: Oracle embraces the cloud. &#171; Gobán Saor</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/06/oracle-in-the-cloud/#comment-4730</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle embraces the cloud. &#171; Gobán Saor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a previous post I had wished for Oracle to clarify its position as regards the use of their databases on a cloud [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gobansaor</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/06/oracle-in-the-cloud/#comment-4605</link>
		<dc:creator>gobansaor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

External tables and BFILEs are not included in the 4GB limit.  In fact like the SimpleDB index to SQLite idea, I&#039;ve also been thinking about using Oracle XE as a meta data and dimensional data store pointing to SQLite fact tables/cubes.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>External tables and BFILEs are not included in the 4GB limit.  In fact like the SimpleDB index to SQLite idea, I&#8217;ve also been thinking about using Oracle XE as a meta data and dimensional data store pointing to SQLite fact tables/cubes.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: PaulM</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/06/oracle-in-the-cloud/#comment-4573</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oracle 10G Express has it limitations, I haven&#039;t had a chance to see if the 4G data limit applies to external tables as well... 

I think your idea for SimpleDB indexes with SQLite backends better though.

If you believe Oracle scales better, is more robust, has more  features... the fractional hour cost of even a CPU/Core Oracle EE license with extra options is not that bad when it is spent over a year&#039;s worth of hours. It is not 10c per hour (more like $1.48 per core per hr for 24x7x365). So to make money on a service which uses it comes down to how you slice up your one massive or 2-3 smaller instances per machine, similar in the end to WebHosting economics.

The main stuff I have tested requires a network that EC2 is not delivering yet. If I could launch a cluster of machines in a specific location which gave me low latency, high speed interconnects I could run MySQL cluster, JGroups, Oracle RAC 2-4 node clusters with replication to other remote sites for redundancy, DR and/or reporting.

Have Fun
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oracle 10G Express has it limitations, I haven&#8217;t had a chance to see if the 4G data limit applies to external tables as well&#8230; </p>
<p>I think your idea for SimpleDB indexes with SQLite backends better though.</p>
<p>If you believe Oracle scales better, is more robust, has more  features&#8230; the fractional hour cost of even a CPU/Core Oracle EE license with extra options is not that bad when it is spent over a year&#8217;s worth of hours. It is not 10c per hour (more like $1.48 per core per hr for 24&#215;7x365). So to make money on a service which uses it comes down to how you slice up your one massive or 2-3 smaller instances per machine, similar in the end to WebHosting economics.</p>
<p>The main stuff I have tested requires a network that EC2 is not delivering yet. If I could launch a cluster of machines in a specific location which gave me low latency, high speed interconnects I could run MySQL cluster, JGroups, Oracle RAC 2-4 node clusters with replication to other remote sites for redundancy, DR and/or reporting.</p>
<p>Have Fun<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: dmcghan</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/06/oracle-in-the-cloud/#comment-3974</link>
		<dc:creator>dmcghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gobansaor,

lol! I like that last comment about the names. I started a little thread oh that not too long ago... Got some funny responses.

http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=2464645&amp;#2464645

I look forward to seeing where all this leads down the road.

Regards,
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gobansaor,</p>
<p>lol! I like that last comment about the names. I started a little thread oh that not too long ago&#8230; Got some funny responses.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=2464645&amp;#2464645" rel="nofollow">http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=2464645&amp;#2464645</a></p>
<p>I look forward to seeing where all this leads down the road.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Backstrom</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/05/06/oracle-in-the-cloud/#comment-3973</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Backstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the APEX team are trying to get feedback on this very same question  http://carlback.blogspot.com/2008/04/apex-as.html please feel free to put any opinions/comments about that

here 
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=650092&amp;tstart=0

or  here
https://mix.oracle.com/ideas/26634-offer-a-saas-cloud-computing-version-of-oracle-application-express</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the APEX team are trying to get feedback on this very same question  <a href="http://carlback.blogspot.com/2008/04/apex-as.html" rel="nofollow">http://carlback.blogspot.com/2008/04/apex-as.html</a> please feel free to put any opinions/comments about that</p>
<p>here<br />
<a href="http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=650092&amp;tstart=0" rel="nofollow">http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=650092&amp;tstart=0</a></p>
<p>or  here<br />
<a href="https://mix.oracle.com/ideas/26634-offer-a-saas-cloud-computing-version-of-oracle-application-express" rel="nofollow">https://mix.oracle.com/ideas/26634-offer-a-saas-cloud-computing-version-of-oracle-application-express</a></p>
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