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		<title>By: Tom Gleeson</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/10/26/windows-on-ec2-smes-on-ec2/#comment-4794</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John

TrueCrypt is free, powerful, easy to use and most importantly, open-source (closed source encryption products are not the best idea from a pure security point of view IMHO).  When I say easy to use, some commercial products are easier on the eye and of course now Vista (or at least the more expensive versions) comes with in-built disk encryption so perhaps not for everybody. 

But if your clients are serious about protecting their data (particularly laptop based datasets) then they should at least check it out.  Like I always say about cloud computing, it may not be suitable for your project but you need to at least understand its potential before dismissing it.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John</p>
<p>TrueCrypt is free, powerful, easy to use and most importantly, open-source (closed source encryption products are not the best idea from a pure security point of view IMHO).  When I say easy to use, some commercial products are easier on the eye and of course now Vista (or at least the more expensive versions) comes with in-built disk encryption so perhaps not for everybody. </p>
<p>But if your clients are serious about protecting their data (particularly laptop based datasets) then they should at least check it out.  Like I always say about cloud computing, it may not be suitable for your project but you need to at least understand its potential before dismissing it.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/10/26/windows-on-ec2-smes-on-ec2/#comment-4793</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom
Im a little off topic here. I picked up from your own comment, &quot;I use TrueCrypt to secure most datasets&quot;.
How do you find it? Some of our client enquiries show they believe online backup encryption will add to their local data security. While it may in limited circumstances the only safe answer is that this is not the case. I tell them to seek third party encryption for local data but would like to be more helpful. I am running a few trials of various products at the moment. TrueCrypt is not one of them. Should it be?

Thanks
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom<br />
Im a little off topic here. I picked up from your own comment, &#8220;I use TrueCrypt to secure most datasets&#8221;.<br />
How do you find it? Some of our client enquiries show they believe online backup encryption will add to their local data security. While it may in limited circumstances the only safe answer is that this is not the case. I tell them to seek third party encryption for local data but would like to be more helpful. I am running a few trials of various products at the moment. TrueCrypt is not one of them. Should it be?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gleeson</title>
		<link>http://blog.gobansaor.com/2008/10/26/windows-on-ec2-smes-on-ec2/#comment-4772</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean

Re:Security
The flaws undoubtedly are already there, but unlike a public facing web app the use of EC2 for cloud bursting (or is that busting, I never know?) entails a much smaller and controllable footprint. Much easier to manage the risk (not eliminate it, just manage it - another subject I regularly rant on about).

Re: WAN v LAN
I don&#039;t see speed of connection as being the major obstacle to the WAN replacing the LAN, it&#039;s the level of latency (which is usually a factor of the level of contention) in the connection.  My fixed wireless provider standard is 1 up, 1 down, but I can operate successfully with half that speed as long as latency remains low.  But even for those who by the nature of their connection suffer high latency as the norm (most mobile offerings and satellite) dumping one&#039;s LAN is still an option as long as the client side apps they use are designed to effectively use local cache (for me it&#039;s Excel backend&#039;d by SQLite).

One other good reason for becoming familiar with EC2 as a datasmithing platform is the potential network effect; as EC2 becomes more popular, and more and more datasets make EC2/S3 their home, then that data will be in need of EC2 based datasmithing services.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean</p>
<p>Re:Security<br />
The flaws undoubtedly are already there, but unlike a public facing web app the use of EC2 for cloud bursting (or is that busting, I never know?) entails a much smaller and controllable footprint. Much easier to manage the risk (not eliminate it, just manage it &#8211; another subject I regularly rant on about).</p>
<p>Re: WAN v LAN<br />
I don&#8217;t see speed of connection as being the major obstacle to the WAN replacing the LAN, it&#8217;s the level of latency (which is usually a factor of the level of contention) in the connection.  My fixed wireless provider standard is 1 up, 1 down, but I can operate successfully with half that speed as long as latency remains low.  But even for those who by the nature of their connection suffer high latency as the norm (most mobile offerings and satellite) dumping one&#8217;s LAN is still an option as long as the client side apps they use are designed to effectively use local cache (for me it&#8217;s Excel backend&#8217;d by SQLite).</p>
<p>One other good reason for becoming familiar with EC2 as a datasmithing platform is the potential network effect; as EC2 becomes more popular, and more and more datasets make EC2/S3 their home, then that data will be in need of EC2 based datasmithing services.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply. 

The Access/Excel/SQL Server and security are great reasons to use EC2 (and EC2 windows) though I am sure there will be some flaw that will get exploited at some point. 

For me at this time, I can see EC2 as a replacement for some of the VMWare images that I use as long as I do not need to share data with my local machine. I also see the usage where I need more horsepower than my local machine can provide. It is amazing how much power we can now get for pennies. That is really &quot;cloud bursting&quot;.

To go from LAN to WAN here in the US is still few years away. I do have a 15 down/6 up connection but that is not the norm yet. Plus cellular is too expensive here unless Sprint can really get the Wimax going. 

I am looking forward to that detail post sometime in near future. 

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply. </p>
<p>The Access/Excel/SQL Server and security are great reasons to use EC2 (and EC2 windows) though I am sure there will be some flaw that will get exploited at some point. </p>
<p>For me at this time, I can see EC2 as a replacement for some of the VMWare images that I use as long as I do not need to share data with my local machine. I also see the usage where I need more horsepower than my local machine can provide. It is amazing how much power we can now get for pennies. That is really &#8220;cloud bursting&#8221;.</p>
<p>To go from LAN to WAN here in the US is still few years away. I do have a 15 down/6 up connection but that is not the norm yet. Plus cellular is too expensive here unless Sprint can really get the Wimax going. </p>
<p>I am looking forward to that detail post sometime in near future. </p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gleeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean,

I must actually do a full  post on the uses I see for EC2 for datasmiths.

Initially my interest in EC2 was as a test/dev *nix platform (I was finally able to get rid of an old PC that acted as a my Linux &quot;server&quot;).  But I&#039;ve also used it as a short term &quot;production&quot; environment, so called &quot;cloud bursting&quot;, one-off data conversions and the like.  I&#039;ve not yet used EC2 as a &quot;permanent&quot; server solution however I have worked with a client on prototypes of such a scenario (a shared datawarehousing solution for SME customers). 

Likewise, my initial interest in Windows EC2 is as a test/dev platform, and this will help shutdown another &quot;server&quot;, this time my ageing XP desktop (pumped up with lots of memory,and a big disk) which currently hosts SQL Server Express, Oracle XE and various VMWare images.  I will also most likely shutdown Windows networking; finally on my way to http://blog.gobansaor.com/2007/12/17/the-wan-is-the-new-lan/

But again &quot;cloud bursting&quot;. this time SQL Server  and Access datasets, will be another major use.  This not only saves time by not having to download/upload such sets to/from my local machines, but it also is a much more secure method of handling client data, less danger of data being compromised (what&#039;s the first thing a thief will lift if he breaks into your house/office, yep, your laptop).  Although I use TrueCrypt to secure most datasets, I&#039;d have to say hand on heart not everything is so secured at this moment in time.

As I said in my LAN is the new WAN post, longterm I see many SMEs migrating to the cloud, and having Windows as an option on such services, hastens that day.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean,</p>
<p>I must actually do a full  post on the uses I see for EC2 for datasmiths.</p>
<p>Initially my interest in EC2 was as a test/dev *nix platform (I was finally able to get rid of an old PC that acted as a my Linux &#8220;server&#8221;).  But I&#8217;ve also used it as a short term &#8220;production&#8221; environment, so called &#8220;cloud bursting&#8221;, one-off data conversions and the like.  I&#8217;ve not yet used EC2 as a &#8220;permanent&#8221; server solution however I have worked with a client on prototypes of such a scenario (a shared datawarehousing solution for SME customers). </p>
<p>Likewise, my initial interest in Windows EC2 is as a test/dev platform, and this will help shutdown another &#8220;server&#8221;, this time my ageing XP desktop (pumped up with lots of memory,and a big disk) which currently hosts SQL Server Express, Oracle XE and various VMWare images.  I will also most likely shutdown Windows networking; finally on my way to <a href="http://blog.gobansaor.com/2007/12/17/the-wan-is-the-new-lan/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.gobansaor.com/2007/12/17/the-wan-is-the-new-lan/</a></p>
<p>But again &#8220;cloud bursting&#8221;. this time SQL Server  and Access datasets, will be another major use.  This not only saves time by not having to download/upload such sets to/from my local machines, but it also is a much more secure method of handling client data, less danger of data being compromised (what&#8217;s the first thing a thief will lift if he breaks into your house/office, yep, your laptop).  Although I use TrueCrypt to secure most datasets, I&#8217;d have to say hand on heart not everything is so secured at this moment in time.</p>
<p>As I said in my LAN is the new WAN post, longterm I see many SMEs migrating to the cloud, and having Windows as an option on such services, hastens that day.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows on EC2 is a plus. I&#039;ve just played around with Linux based EC2 (have not tried the ECB yet). The cost proposition is great mainly when one needs a lot of horse power. 

But from your perspective of an independent consultant, what type of jobs do you see from SME businesses? In other words, what will be a typical engagement for you from an SME that involves deploying Windows (or Linux) on EC2? Are you just coding/testing on EC2 to finally deploy your solution on the SME&#039;s internal servers? Or do they actually like you to host the final code/software on EC2? 

Your posts are very informative! Keep it up as I learn some stuff I do not see elsewhere. 

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows on EC2 is a plus. I&#8217;ve just played around with Linux based EC2 (have not tried the ECB yet). The cost proposition is great mainly when one needs a lot of horse power. </p>
<p>But from your perspective of an independent consultant, what type of jobs do you see from SME businesses? In other words, what will be a typical engagement for you from an SME that involves deploying Windows (or Linux) on EC2? Are you just coding/testing on EC2 to finally deploy your solution on the SME&#8217;s internal servers? Or do they actually like you to host the final code/software on EC2? </p>
<p>Your posts are very informative! Keep it up as I learn some stuff I do not see elsewhere. </p>
<p>Sean</p>
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